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Old 11-13-2006, 10:34 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Time to take the plunge

Well after an month of seeing if I could be a partner for a VOIP company in Ontario (and having my hair go grey with their....."special" expertise), I've decided that I'm going to give rolling my own VOIP a try. As some may remember, I asked about this a while back(http://www.pbxinfo.com/forums/showthread.php?t=20081), so I"m here to ask some advice on one component.

I've got the high speed (check, a cable connect should suffice until I start getting into this hardcore)
I'll be calling the local telco for a block of numbers (check....no idea how much that'll be though)
the question is......what VOIP server should I look into? Premade? Roll my own? I presently have a BSd box bouncing around not doing much so rolling my own wouldn't be that hard to at least find hardware for.

as for the potential userbase, at the exact present moment it'd just be me, myself and I, but if I can get the hang of this (and I cant' see why I shouldn't), I'll be looking to expand this to at least 100 users by spring, so something that is easy to expand, and doesnt' take a lot of juice would be preferable.

Again thanks for any replies on this subject.
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Old 11-14-2006, 09:34 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Canadiancreed, Way to go! Good Luck.
What are you planning on infrastructure wise?
I.E. T1 or PRI? or just analog Trunks?

I would find some users in your area and do a couple of trial runs.
Will you just be providing soft phone service?
You may look at: http://www.voipsupply.com/ they got a lot of hardware ideas for you.

Also if you do get this up and working, I know there is big business in off loading LD minutes. Don't know about in Canada but it may be worth a shot to look into it.

Good Luck and keep us informed on how you proceed.
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Old 11-15-2006, 12:39 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Canadiancreed, Way to go! Good Luck.
Thanks. Lord knows I'll need it as it's one of the few things in the IT world that I'm quite n00bish in.

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What are you planning on infrastructure wise?
I.E. T1 or PRI? or just analog Trunks?
Well I wanted to stick with a completely digital system, and originally figured there was only one option (T1/3/whatever). However if there are other options I'd be intrested. What do they offer conpared to the T series, and what are their drawbacks?

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I would find some users in your area and do a couple of trial runs.
Already taken care of. Lots of folks here are not happy with the national telco, so fidning folks potentially intrested woould be easy to achieve.

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Will you just be providing soft phone service?
Sorry I'm not really getting what you mean there.

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You may look at: http://www.voipsupply.com/ they got a lot of hardware ideas for you.
Nice! I'll ahve to have a look at that, see what I can find.

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Also if you do get this up and working, I know there is big business in off loading LD minutes. Don't know about in Canada but it may be worth a shot to look into it.
Hmnm.....any more info on this? Can't say that I've ever heard of that before

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Good Luck and keep us informed on how you proceed.
Will do. Assuming I find whre to start
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Old 11-15-2006, 03:36 PM   #4 (permalink)
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I would start with TRIXBOX with a PRI interface. You will need a broadband connection with an assigned static IP from your ISP. Order a PRI from your carrier of choice. I would think this carrier would not be the local Telco, rather QWEST, Sprint, MCI/Verizon Business, or some competitor to your local telco. You would want bothway service so you can switch outbound local, long distance, international, and inbound DIDs, as well as inbound toll free service (800). I don't know if you can get DIDs from these carriers on the same PRI. I am not familiar at all with the most important component you will need, namely the "billing system". You need a system to provide whatever detailed billing you will use. I do not know if TRIXBOX has any of this capability available.
Good luck, and please keep us updated. I am sure this community would love to support one of our own member's business.
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I would start with TRIXBOX with a PRI interface.
Ok I'll admit my n00bness by asking wtf is that?

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You will need a broadband connection with an assigned static IP from your ISP.
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Order a PRI from your carrier of choice. I would think this carrier would not be the local Telco, rather QWEST, Sprint, MCI/Verizon Business, or some competitor to your local telco.
Well that may be difficult since the local telco is the main one in Canada (we are regulated for local phone service, but giving some competitors will be possible.

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You would want bothway service so you can switch outbound local, long distance, international, and inbound DIDs, as well as inbound toll free service (800).
Ok, is asking for bothway service the actual name just out of curiosity?

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I don't know if you can get DIDs from these carriers on the same PRI.
Depends on what exactly PRI is. (as I said, I"m a n00b )

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I am not familiar at all with the most important component you will need, namely the "billing system". You need a system to provide whatever detailed billing you will use. I do not know if TRIXBOX has any of this capability available.
Well if it's software it's getting into more my nieche. I'm sure some searchign around will net a few results. It's jsut getting it all connected that I'm completely lost on.

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Good luck, and please keep us updated. I am sure this community would love to support one of our own member's business.
Will do. I'll probably have 50,000 questions between now and then as well
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Trixbox and a PRI and wtf is that. Well here is some info on Trixbox http://www.trixbox.org/ which is an IP PBX.

What is a PRI? This a digital circuit riding on a T-1 using 23 B channels and 1 D channel. So what does that mean, you get 23 digital phone lines. You can also add DID or direct inward Dial Numbers to the PRI to assign to phones on Trixbox. Google what is a PRI for more info. Here I would say that you could also add SIP lines to the system as well for cost savings. What is a SIP line? Well look into carriers like TeleSIP or Vitelity who can provide a virtual PRI an much lower costs and of course you would have to balance cost vs performance. Most of the the IP carriers tell you if they support Asterisk, which is what Trixbox is built on and give setup examples. This also solves the issue of not having to deal with the local telco.
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TRIXBOX formerly Asterisk is an open source PBX software that is free. That is the phone system part. A PRI interface is a card you will install in your sever to plug your telco PRI (Primary Rate Interface) line into. The PRI is a digital telepone line providing 23 talk paths, and 1 Data channel for signaling. When speaking to a carrier "bothway service" is a term they will understand. You could say inbound, and outbound service. ITEngineer makes a good point. If you can get wholesale service off a SIP provider you could probably eliminate any connection to telco. I thought the reason for you starting a VOIP service was due to a lack of any available service in your area.This would save a lot in costs. Understand when I say broadband service I don't mean the average residential DSL, or cable service. You will need lots of bandwidth to provide service to the masses, especially if you use SIP trunks.
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