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**SD_WILSON** · 02-06-2003, 11:09 AM

Quote:

Can some one please
explain to me how it is that if no one hears it, it does not make a sound.
Thanks

The answer to you question lies in the definition of "sound" - according to Webster's Collegiate Dictionary:

sound [n]: 1 a : a particular auditory impression : TONE b : the sensation perceived by the sense of hearing c : mechanical radiant energy that is transmitted by longitudinal pressure waves in a material medium (as air) and is the objective cause of hearing

In order for there to be "sound" there must be a hearer because the definition requires that the sound cause an "impression" or a "sensation" in the hearer. Perhaps thae answer would be clearer if the question was "Does it make a noise?" Now we could play the physics and philosophy game further and argue that since the falling tree definitely emits audio waves which are radiant energy and energy is neither created nor destroyed but rather transmitted or transmuted that the tree does create a sound but perhaps one that is not *consiously* perceived by persons outside the empty forest. But would such an unconscious perception be called "hearing"? And if not could the tree's falling be called a "sound"? And can one hear without actually hearing? And how much wood *could* a woodchuck chuck? Or how much ham could a hamster stir......

Jamesestes · 02-06-2003, 11:42 AM

I think you all are not really LOGGED ON! :laugh: :laugh:

mitchthephoneman · 02-06-2003, 12:29 PM

This Topic is GETTING OUT OF HAND.............. :laugh:

:laugh:

**SD_WILSON** · 02-06-2003, 01:04 PM

Ohhhhhhhhhhh.......

Immanuel Kant was a real pissant
Who was very rarely stable.
Heidegger, Heidegger was a boozy beggar
Who could think you under the table.

David Hume could out-consume
Schopenhauer and Hegel,

And Wittgenstein was a beery swine
Who was just as schloshed as Schlegel.

There's nothing Nietzche couldn't teach ya
'Bout the raising of the wrist.
Socrates, himself, was permanently pissed.

John Stuart Mill, of his own free will,
On half a pint of shandy was particularly ill.

Plato, they say, could stick it away--
Half a crate of whiskey every day.

Aristotle, Aristotle was a bugger for the bottle.
Hobbes was fond of his dram,

And René Descartes was a drunken fart.
'I drink, therefore I am.'

Yes, Socrates, himself, is particularly missed,
A lovely little thinker,
But a bugger when he's pissed.

***Ramjet*** · 02-06-2003, 01:37 PM

There is trouble in the forrest. There is trouble with the trees. For the maples want more sunlight and the oaks ignore there pleas!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :hallucine: :hallucine:

***Ramjet*** · 02-06-2003, 01:41 PM

Rush, The Trees
There is unrest in the forest,
There is trouble with the trees,
For the maples want more sunlight
And the oaks ignore their pleas.

The trouble with the maples,
And they're quite convinced the're right
They say the oaks are just too lofty
And they grab up all the light.

But the oaks can"t help their feelings
If they like the way they"re made.
And they wonder why the maples
Can"t be happy in their shade?

There is trouble in the Forest
And the creatures all have fled
As the Maples scream "Oppression!"
And the Oaks just shake their heads

So the maples formed a union
And demanded equal rights.
"The oaks are just too greedy;
We will make them give us light."

Now there's no more oak oppression,
For they passed a noble law,
And the trees are all kept equal
By hatchet, axe, and saw.

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Janus · 02-07-2003, 08:26 AM

So.....

why does it say offline when he IS online and Online when he is Offline?

AND HOW DO YOU KNOW THE FRIDGE LIGHT IS OFF WHEN THE DOOR IS SHUT?

mitchthephoneman · 02-07-2003, 08:33 AM

If you close the frig down slowly you can see the light go off........

Janus · 02-07-2003, 08:40 AM

But how do you know the thing is not fooling you? How do you know the light doesn't come on again as soon as the door closes?

And why does the board say I am OFFLINE?

[Edited on 7/2/2003 by Janus]

**SD_WILSON** · 02-07-2003, 08:55 AM

Quote:

So.....

why does it say offline when he IS online and Online when he is Offline?

Even the finest teaching is not On-line itself.
Even the finest name is insufficient to define On-line.

Without words, On-line can be experienced,
and without a name, it can be known.

The On-line that can be told
is not the true On-line.
The Off-line that can be determined
is not the true Off-line.

Yet mystery and manifestations
arise from the same source.
This source is called PBXINFO.

PBXINFO within PBXINFO.
The gateway to all understanding.

We cannot know On-line itself,
nor see its qualities direct,
but only see by differentiation,
that which it manifests.

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