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Old 08-16-2006, 06:32 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Ok it's starting

I can see where this is going to go......



Woman Goes to Church to Duck Deportation
By DON BABWIN, Associated Press Writer

Wednesday, August 16, 2006


(08-16) 14:46 PDT CHICAGO, (AP) --


Immigration activists around the country are taking up the cause of a single mother who invoked the medieval principle of sanctuary and took refuge in a Chicago church rather than submit to deportation to Mexico.


Elvira Arellano, 31, was holed up for a second day Wednesday at Aldalberto United Methodist Church with the support of the congregation's pastor. With her was her 7-year-old son, Saul, an American citizen.


Federal officials said there is no right to sanctuary in a church under U.S. law and nothing to prevent them from arresting her. But they would not say exactly what they planned to do, or when.


The protest raised the spectacle of agents barging into a church and dragging her out.


"She is the face of the movement," said Emma Lozano, executive director of the Chicago immigration-rights group Centro Sin Fronteras, who was at the church with Arellano.


In Phoenix, Martin Manteca of Mi Familia Vota said Hispanic activists groups were organizing a vigil in her support. Lozano said an event was also scheduled in Detroit. Dolores Huerta, a leader in the effort to organize the nation's farm workers, planned to travel to Chicago to support Arellano, according to Huerta's daughter, Alicia.


A few dozen supporters gathered at the storefront church, sitting in the pews and praying for Arellano. But the doors were not barricaded, and there were no apparent efforts to fortify the church.


Arellano, who is president of United Latino Family, which lobbies for families that could be split by deportation, had been was ordered to appear at the immigration office in Chicago at 9 a.m. Tuesday, but instead went to the church, where she is an active member.


She said that if authorities want her, they will have to come and get her.


"My son is a U.S. citizen," she told reporters. "He doesn't want me to go anywhere so I'm going to stay with him."


Pastor Walter Coleman said his congregation offered Arellano refuge after praying about her plight. Coleman said he does not believe Arellano should have to choose between leaving her son behind or removing him from his home.


"She represents the voice of the undocumented, and we think it's our obligation, our responsibility, to make a stage for that voice to be heard," he said.


Immigration and Customs Enforcement said there is nothing preventing the U.S. government from arresting her at the church.


"Ms. Arellano willfully violated U.S. immigration laws and is now facing the consequences of her actions by failing to report to immigration authorities," said agency spokeswoman Gail Montenegro. "We will arrest and deport her as required by law at an appropriate time and place."


Legal experts agreed that the ancient doctrine that people are protected from arrest in a church is not recognized under U.S. law.


But Joel Fetzer, associate professor of political science at Pepperdine University, said: "If the government comes in, it's going to look very jack-booted fascistic. It would look very bad."


Churches and synagogues also tried to offer sanctuary to illegal immigrants escaping civil war in El Salvador during the 1980s, a civil disobedience acitivity known as the Sanctuary movement. Susan Gzesh, a senior lecturer at the University of Chicago who assisted the churches and synagogues that offered sanctuary, said she does not believe federal authorities ever went into the churches to make arrests.


Arellano illegally crossed into the United states in 1997 and was deported shortly afterward. She returned within days, living for three years in Oregon before moving to Chicago in 2000. Arrested two years later at O'Hare Airport, where she was working as a cleaning woman, she was convicted of working under a false Social Security number and ordered to appear at the immigration office in Chicago.


Activists said her desire to come here to work and provide a better life for herself and her son illustrates why they believe the nation's immigration laws must be changed.


"She is a leader in the movement who has made the issue of family unity the key issue in the question of the undocumented," her pastor said. "That is the most sympathetic issue there is."


Others are not so sure.


"I don't think the immigration debate should be focused on a woman who ... disregards an order," said Carlina Tapia-Ruano, a Chicago lawyer and president of the American Immigration Lawyers Association.


Tapia-Ruano said she worries that Arellano's story will be used by extremists on both sides of the issue and cited as an example "of how illegals come here to be in flagrant disregard of our laws, and I don't think that's true."
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Old 08-16-2006, 07:58 PM   #2 (permalink)
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She said that if authorities want her, they will have to come and get her.

A couple of CS gas cansiters could change the whole 'who comes to who' thing. And they are non lethal (read funny) unlike most of the stuff I come up with.
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Old 08-16-2006, 11:43 PM   #3 (permalink)
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I'm picturing being dragged out by ankles kicking and screaming
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Old 08-17-2006, 08:26 AM   #4 (permalink)
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While i can relate to her not wanting to leave her kid...even as liberal as I like to think I am, I find issues here.

1) She can't even PROVE her kid is an American Citzen..According to the local new (and NPR) she has no documents on where he was born.
2) She broke the law...There are so many avocates out there for Imgration that AREN'T breaking the law, why does she?
Mind, you could say "Laws are meant to be broken" and that the "Freedom Fighters" of the '60s civil rights groups broke the law, which they did....but the difference being that the laws THEY BROKE were imorral and unjust. A majority of the imigration laws that are in place currently are not...they were in place to make them MORE just than what was previously in place.
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I'm picturing being dragged out by ankles kicking and screaming
That's not very PC... tear gas on the other hand gets around the whole having to drag thing...
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Arellano illegally crossed into the United states in 1997 and was deported shortly afterward. She returned within days, living for three years in Oregon before moving to Chicago in 2000. Arrested two years later at O'Hare Airport, where she was working as a cleaning woman, she was convicted of working under a false Social Security number and ordered to appear at the immigration office in Chicago.
And exactly what would happen to any of us who did that?
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And exactly what would happen to any of us who did that?
125 to life no time for good behavior.

Things are always different when dealing with citizens of another country as things could get 'sensitive' if they aren't treated just right... our own citizens we can bend over any old time for any old reason.
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Arellano illegally crossed into the United states in 1997 and was deported shortly afterward. She returned within days, living for three years in Oregon before moving to Chicago in 2000. Arrested two years later at O'Hare Airport, where she was working as a cleaning woman, she was convicted of working under a false Social Security number and ordered to appear at the immigration office in Chicago.
So let's see now, arrested in 2002 and it's taken until now to get her to appear in front of the courts. Problem with the courts system is there?

And also let's see now, she was here from 1997 until now so I'd think that her child was born in the US but surely it shouldn't count as she's not supposed to be there in the first place?????
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So let's see now, arrested in 2002 and it's taken until now to get her to appear in front of the courts. Problem with the courts system is there?
That's pretty normal; the two cases I was involved in last year were both from the 1999 / 2000 time frame... one was a multiple rape case with lots of other felony charges and the dude got 137 years to life the other was a wrongful death suit due to an industrial accident.
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Sounds like the courts system is catching up then!!!!
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