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Old 03-25-2008, 06:02 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Revol Phones & Active Voice VM

Here's a really strange problem I need some help with.

I've got a 2000 IPS with Active Voice AD-8 voice mail.

I've been receiving complaints from workers saying their customers left them voice mail and they never received it. I could never really trace the problem because they never gave me any dates or times or any details on what equipment the customer used, etc...

I finally got to the bottom of it. An irate customer came in complaining he left a message on our system from their cell phone. I asked to borrow their phone right there and then to test right in front of him. It turns out he had a Revol Cell phone. It almost looked more like a toy than a cell phone. I called the DID on my extension and my voice mail picked up. My outgoing message played. It went to the beep. I recorded a test message. I even hit the * key after the message to show I ended the call. Voice mail gave me the send options. Everything worked fine except when I walked to my desk and went to my phone, my message waiting light was not on. I dialed into voice mail and it said, "You have no new messages." It didn't record the message!! I looked at the log in Active Voice. It showed the system took the call on the port. My test call was 46 seconds. It ended the call without any errors, but it did not turn on the MWL command. It then showed I called in and it played that I had no new messages.

I thanked the customer for the use of his phone and went to troubleshooting work.

Since then, I left several test messages from several cell phones. I've got an AT&T. A co-worker has an Alltel. Another co-worker has a Sprint. Another, T-Mobile. Every time I used their phones, our Voice Mail works fine. I found a secretary that has a Revol phone. Our voice mail system won't record the voice from that Revol phone. The logs show the port is recording, but it's recording silence.

Has anybody heard of this??

Revol is a small upstart regional cell phone system that really appeals to low-income customers. It's a pay as you go without a contract. I looked at the signal strength on the secretary's phone. It's pitiful. It won't even roam!

Recently, I did have one customer service rep on a live voice call shouting at a customer saying "I can't hear you--speak up!" I looked at her caller-id while she was on the call. It was a Revol phone number.

If Revol has pitiful and lousy voice quality, how can I resolve our Voice Mail system to record it? Our sensitivity settings were set and approved by NEC technical reps. It picks up everything quite well except Revol phones. I've reset our VM several times--nothing works.

Any suggestions? I'm under heat to get this resolved. Several big guys of my company missed important calls from customers with Revol Phones and aren't happy.
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Old 03-25-2008, 07:04 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Hate to say this but this is one for NEC. I doubt this forum would be able to help with a problem like that.

On the lighter side if they have Revol phones they can't be that important
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Hate to say this but this is one for NEC. I doubt this forum would be able to help with a problem like that.

On the lighter side if they have Revol phones they can't be that important
Our customer base is the poor, needy, and destitute. There's a lot of those people out there lately. These people can't afford hard-wired phones and turn to companies like Revol. So a "not important" call is your opinion.
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Old 03-26-2008, 08:25 AM   #4 (permalink)
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Sorry.... Didn't mean to offend which is why I said "on the lighter side" However in view of your customer base I can see how my comments could offend so sorry once again In my own defence (this bit deleted by me I won't try and defend the comments as that would probably offer more opportunity to offend and that is not my intent) . However the plain facts are it is unlikely this forum could come up with a resolution for a problem as fundamental as this and NEC is your only real hope. You could approach Revol for more information but it would be better if NEC were involved and/or made the approach for you.

If I could help I would but being on a different continent it is nigh on impossible. Good luck with this, there are posters here who are NEC connected in North America but you will have to hope one of them sees this and can help.

Finally once again please accept my apologies for any offence taken. (that will teach me to try and be glib about anything!)
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First off have you talked with your phone system vendor to see if they have any reports from other customers using the same voicemail, if they have not then ask them to simulate your test with another voicemail system. By simulating this on another system and voicemail it will help to determine whether it is just a problem with your system or a problem with the voicemail itself. If it is your system look at your trunking into the system. I have saw issues before where the hand off between the cell carrier and the wire line carrier to have a mismatch that will cause exactly what you are saying. If you get no where then you best bet at that time is to Call REVOL get a hold of a cell engineer, get the engineer and your vendor on site at the same time. Conference Active voice in while everyone is one site, and let the 3 of them work it out.
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