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| For while now, we have had some strange things going on with our T1 circuits. I have the 61C, with 3 T1 circuits and 24 copper trunk members. The problem lies with my outgoing long distance T1. Well, actually I moved outgoing Long Distance to 2 different T1 circuits with different cards with the same results. Here is a description of the T1 circuits: Route 0 Loop 18 24 Channels AT&T Universal T1 2 way TKTP: DID Route 1 Loop 8 24 Channels AT&T Long Distance 2 way TKTP: TIE Currently, the long distance outgoing is on Loop 18. Here is what happens: Once in a while, we notice we will call a long distance number, and we are having to wait about 20 or 30 seconds before the calls even connects. I go into LD 60 and do a STAT and get something like this: DTI TRK LOOP 8 - ENBL FFMT/LCMT/YALMT: ESF/B8Z/FDL SERVICE RESTORE: YES YEL ALM PROCESS: YES ALARM STATUS : NO ALARM CH 01 - BUSY TIE VOD CH 02 - BUSY TIE VOD CH 03 - BUSY TIE VOD CH 04 - BUSY TIE VOD CH 05 - BUSY TIE VOD CH 06 - BUSY TIE VOD CH 07 - BUSY TIE VOD CH 08 - BUSY TIE VOD CH 09 - BUSY TIE VOD CH 10 - BUSY TIE VOD CH 11 - BUSY TIE VOD CH 12 - BUSY TIE VOD CH 13 - BUSY TIE VOD CH 14 - BUSY TIE VOD CH 15 - BUSY TIE VOD CH 16 - BUSY TIE VOD CH 17 - BUSY TIE VOD CH 18 - BUSY TIE VOD CH 19 - BUSY TIE VOD CH 20 - BUSY TIE VOD CH 21 - BUSY TIE VOD CH 22 - BUSY TIE VOD CH 23 - BUSY TIE VOD CH 24 - BUSY TIE VOD or this, depending on the routing I have set up: DTI TRK LOOP 18 - ENBL FFMT/LCMT/YALMT: ESF/B8Z/FDL SERVICE RESTORE: YES YEL ALM PROCESS: YES ALARM STATUS : NO ALARM CH 01 - BUSY DID VOD CH 02 - BUSY DID VOD CH 03 - BUSY DID VOD CH 04 - BUSY DID VOD CH 05 - BUSY DID VOD CH 06 - BUSY DID VOD CH 07 - BUSY DID VOD CH 08 - BUSY DID VOD CH 09 - BUSY DID VOD CH 10 - BUSY DID VOD CH 11 - BUSY DID VOD CH 12 - BUSY DID VOD CH 13 - BUSY DID VOD CH 14 - BUSY DID VOD CH 15 - BUSY DID VOD CH 16 - BUSY DID VOD CH 17 - BUSY DID VOD CH 18 - BUSY DID VOD CH 19 - BUSY DID VOD CH 20 - BUSY DID VOD CH 21 - BUSY DID VOD CH 22 - BUSY DID VOD CH 23 - BUSY DID VOD CH 24 - BUSY DID VOD Now normally, there will be regular traffic around 1/4 of this. What I mean is, all this should not be full, in a legit situation. This is not a legit situation however. Read on. So then I go to LD 80 and do a TRAD 8 XX (where XX is the trunk member I want to look at.) A legit call looks like this: .TRAD 18 22 ACTIVE TN 018 22 ORIG 012 0 02 07 MARP 0 3971 500 WRLS TERM 018 22 DID RMBR 0 22 DIAL DN 91214324XXXX MAIN_PM ESTD TALKSLOT ORIG 15 TERM 17 QUEU NONE CALL ID 0 76 PDCA 1 PAD 0 0 PCML MU MU You can plainly see that is originates on a TN and goes out over a T1 trunk. The suspicious calls look like this: .TRAD 18 24 ACTIVE TN 018 22 ORIG 018 24 DID RMBR 0 24 TERM 018 21 DID RMBR 0 21 DIAL DN 90112632xxxx MAIN_PM ESTD TALKSLOT ORIG 26 TERM 28 QUEU NONE CALL ID 0 408 PDCA 1 PAD 0 3 PCML MU MU PDCA 1 PAD 0 0 PCML MU MU You see how it originates AND terminates on a trunk member? That's not the best part, this sort of think will keep these circuits open for days, resulting in something like this: 09/08 00:00 944 1281.5 2632xxxx Zimbabwe $ 3959.57 Foreign or this example: 08/08 00:00 800 3994.2 968500xxxx Oman $13242.11 Foreign Now, I will mention that we are a hotel, and this activity is originating from guest rooms. The guests DID dial these numbers, but these calls stay open for days at a time, and in the meantime our call accounting system shows that they made more calls. So of course they hung up their phone. What I want to know is, WHY IS THIS HAPPENING?!? Do we have hotel guests who have exploited some security hole? Is there something wrong with our PBX hardware? Do we have a malfnctioning T1? Our PBX vendor is pointing the finger at AT&T, and AT&T is pointing the finger back at our PBX vendor. In the meantime, we are stuck paying for the international calls that nobody seemed to make. The prices above shows what the marked up rate would be for our guests, but we are still paying thru the nose for these calls. Anyone who has any ideas, please help! Thanks, Cliff | ||||||||
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| Senior Member ![]() Rachelle is curious
Location: Lou, KY Rep Power: 9 ![]() | Look elsewhere on this site for a MerHack document. This will lay out what you should look at to block Trunk to Trunk calling. If you have your vendor involved, I would not make any changes immediately. I would discuss the interoperability and impact of each of the recommended settings on your given operation. This type of thing can be tricky so be careful and good luck. rlc | ||||||||
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| Senior Member Fletch is Nortel E911 PLM
Location: NORTEL - NJ Rep Power: 7 ![]() | You are definately getting hacked. Most likely there is a hole in your Mail system somewhere. Do a security audit on your PBX immediately. Also look for sets with CFXA. __________________ Fletch Nortel Emergency Services PLM For more on Nortel E911 Solutions on the web: http://nortel.com/e911 Check out this month's E911 Talk podcast at Nortel E911 Talk Podcasts | ||||||||
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| Senior Member ![]() slagburn has no status.
Location: 3498.51 miles from Tiverton, Ontario (CANADA) Rep Power: 16 ![]() | Yep you're gettin screwed with. I used to have a similiar problem with local out of service numbers that terminated to a central office recorded annoucement. Single line users would call a number get the recording, hook flash, redial, get the recording again and then hang up.. ala looped trunks and a bill for hours of it. Due to having centralized voice mail connected to the remote sites by the same routes that handle zone 3+ calls I have to allow trunk to trunk transfering so users can manually transfer callers to voice mail. Bad idea but with no money we're stuck with it. The short term solution was to disallow trunk to trunk trasnfers, when that went over like a lead balloon and got tossed up to the top we used procomm scripts to trace the trunks and kick ones out that were looped. In the end the local telco did 'something' and now the DRAM (or whatever they call it) disconnects after giving the message twice. | ||||||||
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| Senior Member ![]() gei_spot is going phishing
Location: Somewhere in this vast universe on a little rock that looks like a grape. Rep Power: 12 ![]() | Quote:
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| OUCHIE-WAWA!!! Well, I have actually turned off C6A on all of the guest rooms. The problem still occurred even after the fact. There was a time when I thought that was the problem, but now it seems not to be. And no, we don't make our guests go thru the switchboard to dial international, this is a luxury hotel, and they get access to do that all by themselves. | ||||||||
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| Senior Member Fletch is Nortel E911 PLM
Location: NORTEL - NJ Rep Power: 7 ![]() | See if DISA was activated by chance. 1st see if you even have the DISA PKG LD 22 REQ PRT TYPE PKG 22 If you have it you get DISA 22 If you don't have it you get DISA 22 RESTRICTED If you have it and want to se if it's configured: LD 24 REQ PRT TYPE DIS CUST 0 DN SCH0793 SCH0793 means No DISA DNs are defined for this customer. This is good! If you get back some DISA DN's programmed, you have most likely found your culprit. Back as a customer, I always had problems with vendors in South America dropping in DISA DN's and then selling my dialtone on the street. __________________ Fletch Nortel Emergency Services PLM For more on Nortel E911 Solutions on the web: http://nortel.com/e911 Check out this month's E911 Talk podcast at Nortel E911 Talk Podcasts | ||||||||
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| A long post, but well worth reading. Another thing to check if you have configured in the Voice Mail or Call Pilot the Thru Dial activated. These is when you are logged in in the voice mail you dial 0 plus the number you want and #. After that your call go out like inside call. Restrict all TOLL calls via PAC Codes asigned to everyone in the office then you can verified all call. Hope this help you to solve your problem. Regards, RRivera. Sorry about my english. | ||||||||
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