tech_anon1

Anyone who knows wouldn't or at least shouldn't provide this information.

If you have to ask, you probably really don't need to be there.

Fletch

What would you possibly want to do in PDT? Beyond inserting patches, there is little there you could make use of.

I have folks beg an plead, offer money, and their first born's to me for a set of the docs. Trust me, there is nothing sexy or special there. Poking around in memory locations, decyphering Hex and binary bits to clear a little corruption is only 'fun' the first 3 or 4 times.

For those of you who managed to get into PDT, be carefull. I know of a user that recently had to pay a hefty fee to clean up a mess they caused by poking around in there. They claimed they didn't but there are system logs buried deep in there that tell all, especially what was done in debug, and when.

I'll also issue this heads up. The shorter the commands are, the more dangerous they tend to be.

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hhallett

Chalk it up to insatiable professional curiosity. I've always tried to learn what I could, when I could, how I could about the systems that I've spent so many years servicing.

Fletch, I've read many of your contributions to this board and know that you know that of which you speak. This is why we were using an OOS Opt 11. Whatever we did to it wouldn't not matter since it'll never be put back in service again.

However, I respect your testimonial and won't pursue the matter any further on this board.

hhallett

Sir, your reply is, at best, nonsensical.

Would you apply this same reasoning if, say, you needed to use the bathroom but didn't know where one was located?

If you don't ask, how do you learn? How would you find out, such as in this instance, that there may be good reasons for certain information to be limited to only certain people?

No, I think I'll stick to being inquisitive.

begemot

pwd, ren - try these commands on the Linux system. they are the same in pdt.
bd - you really don't need to know about it.
it's fun to play with the pdt a little until it becomes your job...

Nortellian

Chalk it up to insatiable professional curiosity. I've always tried to learn what I could, when I could, how I could about the systems that I've spent so many years servicing.



Exactly how I feel.

HUGHESY

I've heard playing around with PDT is like playing with a woman who has PMT, great when you get it right, but stand WELL BACK, if you get it wrong.


yours not so PC

hughesy

Fletch

Let's not prolong the pain and put an end to this thread. Great comments from everyone, this includes you hhallett.

Let me sum it up.

1.) No one here is going to contribute more on PDT commands or docs
2.) You can try to play, but theres not much there
3.) hhallett is as curious as anyone else, but is smart enough to play on an offline box.

Done.

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mac11

I would like to add one more comment on this.
There are some useful elements of PDT. If there weren't it wouldn't exist.
If someone is foolish enough to blow away a production system let them do it and pay the price. Keeping it a deep dark mystery only serves Nortel (at least those who are left!). I also have a test system. In experimenting one day I lost the access codes. By knowing just enough in pdt I was able to restore a database and get back in. Without it the choice was to phone Nortel or vendor etc. which is a little much for a test system. I am not advocating any "hack related" dialog but the attitude that no dialog because "it is for your own good" just doesn't really cut it. Just my humble opinion.