Pirates_Ghost

I know a guy in IL who's a cheap (won't spend a dime), small (under 5 foot) T1 tester
:P

Sorry...couldn't resist...

best I could suggest is a cheap laptop and a nul modem cable hooked to the PBX constantly looking at the t....but that's not really what you want, so I'll shut up now and let someone else try

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PP

I'VE USED A PIECE OF EQUIPMENT CALLED A T1 WATCHER, IF I REMEMBER CORRECTLY IT GOES FOR AROUND $1200.
IT WILL LOG THE ERRORS FOR YOU SLIPS, BPV. FRAME LOSS. YOU CAN MONITOR SINGLE CHANNELS OR THE WHOLE 24 CHANNELS, HAS A SPEAKER.
BUT HAS NO DCH DIAGS, BUT FOR $1200 IT'S A NICE LITTLE BOX
http://www.electrodata.com/tw1.htm

Twisted

a RJ 45 jack with pins 1-4 & 2-5 looped. eliminate the csu during testing and watch the counters in the switch..


cost: $000.000.00

benifits ..endless

PRI's are a little harder but very seldom do you need a lot of bells .

scott

I found one for about $1200 as well from "Telinc". Probably go that route unless the guy from IL doesn't eat much then he may be cheaper.

Twisted - I need to monitor the signaling to eliminate finger pointing and to help the LEC do their job :wink:

Here's the link (FYI) -
http://www.telinc.com/wan_tester.html

Pirates_Ghost

Sorry Scott, he's a bit of a "Lawrey's for Steaks" fan (VERY PRICEY)

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mmtech

As an expert an DS0 to DS3 testers, having used every kind of Tberd to agilent set from DS0 to OC-48. I would have say that plugging a laptop in logged into ld 60, is pretty lame. When comes to really good T-1 stats, ld 60 sucks.

Look at ebay, if you can find a TPS, they good little testers. I have seen them for around 1,200. YOu may even find one that had PRI software, so that you can monitor DCH stats.
Also I am seeing a lot of the old TTC 224 sets out there for 1,000 to 2,000 or so.
now I am talking testers that sold new for 10 grand to 20 grand originally

One probelm with PBX people is that most think the swicth has the ultimate diagnostics. Nothing beats a good installation were you are using DSX panels to manage your T-1's, instead of Rj-48c jacks. Then you can really use a test set

scott

Good input all around. Thanx guys.

Pirates_Ghost

Ok...I know your not slamming me, but I want to clarify two things (attacking quote in reverse order):

1) I agree that Ld 60 SUCKS and is certainly limited in it's diagnostic capabilities, but if you know the ins and outs of your system, you can gain alot of information as to possible issues with out a tester. I think you'd be hard pressed to find anyone on this board (we're not ALL "PBX people" you know) who would disagree, however, nothing beats a true T1 tester to really check the full span of issues,

2) I want to say that I am not "An expert in testers" (never claimed to be either, I know how to use one, but that's about it) I suggested the laptop idea as "CHEAP" means of doing basic monitoring, not the sure fire cure. Consider this: at minimum you'll pay upwards of $1200 for a good (IE: useable, but far from top of the line) tester, and around $400 for a minimal use (IE: Procom Plus or some such program) laptop. CHEAP, but not the best.

Of course when it comes to ANY eqipment for ANY job/project/et al....
You GETS what ya' PAYS for!

Ok...I'm done venting.
:P

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freddog

scott,

Would recommend that the amount of money that should be spent on a T-1 tester should depend on your own experiences in dealing with carriers and the frequency with which you have service affecting T-1 problems. If you have infrequent troubles and your carrier typically resolves outages quickly, without trying to repeatedly point the finger at your equipment, then an inexpensive tester without many features will work fine.

My personal experince has been that resolving T-1 outages with the carrier is much too often a battle, with the carrier trying to put the blame on our end equipment/wiring. My company has two T-BERD test sets for techs to use to resolve T-1 problems. It is, by far, the most valuable telecom tool I have ever used. You can fight with a carrier for days over a problem, swapping out CSUs, cabling, etc and the carrier will still point the finger at your stuff. Once you tell a carrier that your T-BERD is showing errors coming from THEM, the carrier ends up finding the source of the trouble, on their end, and corrects it within 15 minutes.

The results obtained from a high end tester (T-BERD, Sage, Sunset) pulls a lot of weight as far as convincing a carrier that a problem lies within their network and not your equipment.