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Old 06-07-2006, 05:16 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Hello,
We have virtual office working well within our CS1000M for all IP sets locally based. They register on our signaling server here and all is well. We have another office connected via VPN and tried registering phones here to the 2nd signaling server there. The phone registers ok but seems to lose connectivity and resets several times an hour. So, it was suggested we use Virtual Office to just login the remote employees phones. As I understand it, the two signaling servers will essentially transfer the phone's profile between each other and it will work locally.

We have NOTHING configured in NRS yet. I am told we need to setup a portion within it for NCS, but don't want to hose anything up. We don't want to do any SIP yet or H323 unless needed to get this virtual office working between the two signaling servers. I was hoping to do the minimal setup to make this feature work for the Nortel proprietary IP sets.

Any suggestions would be great!
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You need to configure to use Network Virtual Office. See the IP Peer Networking NTP for more information.

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Configure NRS that is!

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I would reccomend to read an NTP "Feature and Servises" in addition to IP Peer Networking to learn more about virtual office feature.

I don't have clear understanding of you schema? How much CS1000M systems do you have ? Two or just one but with 2 distributed signalling servers ? Could you try to explain more clear ? Because if it's one system - you don't need to setup NRS. If it's two different systems - how do you communicate between them without setting up NRS and using H323 or SIP protocol ?
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Virtual office between IP-sets.

If its one system with serveral sigservers it should work.
Minimum softwarelevel should be Enhanced Business Services.
Give 2 sets CLS, VOLA and VOUA and configure the SCPW.
After that, test it between these sets.

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Ok, let's imagine that you have 2 CS1000M with IP sets.
For VO you should have both of this system registered in NRS, with correctly defined routing of local calls.
Besides you should turn on NCS on both (I think) sites in EM and NRS.
In this case you should have IP network wide virtual office.

By the way VO works different that you imagine. When IP set of one office want to make VO login to another office it will be just transferred to register on other signaling server. Information about IP address of other signaling server is taken from NRS.
That's why you should define it first.
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Hang on a second. If you have a phone at site A and it is registering to the TPS (Telephone Proxy Server) on the Signaling Server at B, if the registration happens OK, then you are fine from that perspective.

The difficulty you thought you are having is that the phone is reseting several times each hour.

The telephones have a watchdog timer in them that is 200 seconds in length. If the watchdog reaches 0, then the phone reboots itself and attempts to register against the S1 or S2 Node IP depending on the settings in the phone and how frequently it has rebooted.

The TPS RESETS the watchdog timer to 200 every 100 seconds. So in theory, you could miss one reset, and get the second reset before hitting 0. (I am saying rough time estimates here).

So if your phone is reseting, that implies that the watchdogs are not getting through all of the time. This is a network problem.

In a Network Virtual Office environment, when you log in, the phone registers against your Home TN using the NCS (Network Connect Server) in the NRS to get to your Home TPS. The local HOST TN (The phone you used to login on) is cached in the set for when you log out, or if the ESA (Typically 911 in the US) is dialed.

The point is, the same watchdog timer is in place from your set to the HOME TPS, and if the watchdogs are not making it, they are not making it. You need to focus on the reset problem.

Now as for Network Virtual Office, yes, the NRS needs to be setup with a dialplan, you need Virtual trunks on each CS1000 and the NCS service needs to be defined in the Gateway Endpoints once they are built and registered in the NRS.

Some simple ethernet sniffing is essential need here. You need to sniff the port of the phone that is reseting and watch for the watchdog packets coming in, or not. The predicament here is that you can capture the packets OK, but you will need Nortel ETAS (now called NETS btw) to decode these as the phone uses UNIStim signaling, and ethereal can't decode that without a special plug-in that is not accessible to the public.

Sorry for the lengthy response here, I just did not want you to go through the problem of setting up Network-wide IP Virtual Office only to have the exact same issue. Work with you data guys to investigate the network. Is there a QoS strategy in place? Are the IP Phones set up to do QoS? Does the Layer 2 (lan) and Layer 3 (wan) policy work with each other? You would be surprised how many large companies have not reviewed this for functionality or accuracy.
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