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Old 06-02-2004, 07:03 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Hi All of you ! I tried to find wiring instruction to hook up a second CAP unit for MICS XC Vers.3 system. The only thing I found that the power supply has to be connected to the 3rd pair. I assume that if I will install a new jack, connecting the first pair of it to the first pair of the original jack ( where the 1 unit is plugged in ) and the 3rd pair will be connectecd to the second pair of the original jack. Is this correct ??? Thanx for the answers in advance Istvan
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Old 06-03-2004, 02:00 AM   #2 (permalink)
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depends on the type of jack it is..

(always negative/positive)

The Station Auxillary Power Supply (SAPS) should be plugged into an outlet in the phone room and extended from there. If you are not using a Nortel Networks SAPS then I am not guaranteeing that the amperage will be correct to make the KLM work. Also, whoever told you that you should wire the SAPS to the third pair should be shot. The third pair is reserved if you want to add a second KLM to the M7324.

If it is a 568A data style jack - wire the power to White-Orange/Orange-White

If it is a 568B data style jack - wire the power to White-Green/Green-White

If it is a 6 conductor with spade style clips, look in the jack and make sure that white-orange/orange-white from the cable is on the black/yellow pins.

One of these scenarios should work for you. If you are not a telephone technician or know nothing about wiring, support the people that know what they are doing and pay the $35-$70 to have them do it.
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Hi Brewsky Thanx 4 your answer. I was talking about the second KLM unit, so I guess third pair suggestion wasn't that bed. And yes I have an original Norstar SAPS, for the existing KLM unit. I think when I mentioned second CAP unit in my original posting, you thought that as a first KLM.I stand corrected here, for not using the proper terminology. I have so many literature,installation guides, CDs, ... regarding MICS systems and couldn't find any reference re. hooking up the second KLM unit. Is it me who can't find, it or it is just not written anywhere??? Istvan
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the wiring diagram is with the SAPS...
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Hi & thanx again Brewsky. I usually install refurbished equipment. Could you email ( istvan@eoe.ca ) or fax ( 905-637-6662 ) that info to me please. Thanx a 1 000 000 Istvan
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let me look today and see if I have one..
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I am not one to correct other people but -

If you have one CAP - the power pair is the normally the second pair
If you add a second CAP to the same set, the power terminates to the third pair as well as the second pair on the same jack. You can utilise the same power source. Loop the second pair to the third pair to provide power to all four pins. Leaving the first pair as your data.


Brewsky,
Correct me if I am wrong.
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Hi Shooter If i'm not mistaken we are talking on the same language. Your suggestion is identical with my first posting. Isn't that the case here ??? But I still would like to read the original instructions, if it is possible. Istvan
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real simple

pair 1 pins 3,4 - digital port

pair 2 pins 2,5 - 24 volt ps

pair 3 pins 1,6 - 24 volt ps

plug 6 conductor line cord from jack to cap to cap to 7324.
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Hi rustynails U R right, your suggestion seems to be the simpliest. Altough today I tried my original way ( same as Shooter said ) But when after plagging the second CAP module I tried to assign it to the same extension, when I dialed the third digit of that extension, the display went back to none. I thought probably I had a faulty CAP module. I replaced the working first one with it , and yes it proved to be at fault. After that I didn't bother try your way, because first I will get a replacement unit from the supplier, and I will continue my "game" tomorrow better say today !! it's passed midnight already. By the way how important the order of the connections of these units ? Do they have to be like CAP 1 / CAP 2 / M7324 or they can be like CAP 1 / M7324 ( existing set up ) and then the CAP 2 through another jack ( first pair / data third pair / 24 V DC ) Istvan
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