| well, that is a lot of questions and issues. I wonder if you would not be better served by a link to explain all the different parts of Cisco IP Tel. The 3.3 version is several years old and it is a bit tedious to match up all the names of things from 3 years ago to what they are now called. Do you have a CCO account? This will help you get to the "Compatability Matrix" which will lay out al the verions that work together. Neeless to say most older versions of the features do not work with newer versions of the core software so if you upgrade CallManager from 3.3 to 4.1.x then you will need the newer versions of everything else. The older versions will not run very well on new CM software. To get a phone up and place calls between IP phones you need: 1 CM server (CM needs SQL and is built with it on the box from the Installation CD"s) 1 Switch (networking switch like a catalyst 2900) 2 IP Phones (either actuall phones or 2 IP Comm's on laptops) Working network connectivity between the phones and the server All the rest of it (AA, TAPS, CRA and it's upgrade IPCC, Extension Mobility, etc.) are all just features. So until you get CM up and a phone registered, don't worry about them, you can add them later and right now I think you are focusing on the wrong stuff. Build a server, install CM, whatever version you can, and put it on a network with 2 laptops, then install IP Comm on the laptops and go into the preferences to tell it the IP address of the server (TFTP server and Call Processing server, which are both the CM IP address) Once you have that up you should be able to place a call between the IP comms. So, CM does not like Win2k server in it's native form which is why the build CDs are necessary. They build Win2k server and rip out a bunch of apps and services that conflict with CM. The Windows updates you list are Cisco provided and will not run very well on a base Win2k install from MS cd's. They may not run at all. SQL is also installed from the build CD's so no worries there The Build CD's does not install CM, just the OS and SQL and DC Directory (when you install CM you can hook it to an AD if there is one available but DC Directory will still be installed) The CD is called "Installation and Recovery" in version 3.3 CM is on the "IP Telephony server" CD Difference between CME and CM CME runs on a router and is IOS based CM runs on a server. CME is for small remote offices CM is for the Enterprise CME and CM are distinct products, they do not look or feel anything alike. One is not better than the other because they are intended for different audiences. Price - I believe CM without any hardware retails in teh US for $8k (I don't know what it is in pounds or euros) IP Comm is a license of $100 Phones are between $150 and $500 (for wifi) CME is a software featureset for the 2800 and 3800 series routers and would vary depending on what else you need for featuresets __________________ Deus ex machina |